S10E225 27 Sept 2026
S10E225: Why Change Fatigue Isn't Real with Tammy Watchorn Change fatigue isn't real. It's the story you're telling yourself about the change.
Dr Tammy Watchorn, the Change Ninja, is back on Project Chatter. A scientist turned healthcare change leader, Tammy learned early that change works through people, not process. Her third book, The Change Ninja vs Zombies, is out on 6 October: a gamified, Top Trumps style guide to spotting the things that drain your time, energy and mojo, and slaying them.
Dale flies solo in the host seat for this one. They get into:
Why transformation fails when nobody can name the problem it's solving
Why you can't put yourself in someone else's shoes until you understand how your own brain handles change
Vlad the Macro Zombie, Walter Wrong Question and Wolfie the work-about-work zombie
How to answer the awkward question before it's asked
"Difficult" stakeholders, and the one word that quietly makes you one
Why time speeds up as you get older, and how to slow it down
The case for being bored again
Using AI as a critical friend, not a ghostwriter
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